Podcasting's superpower is intimacy — the slow, deep trust built over long-form listening. Social media's superpower is intimacy too, but a different kind: quick hits, snackable moments, the scroll-stopping hook. So what happens when you try to translate one into the other?

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In Episode 04 of The Signal Room, Jemma sits down with brand strategist Elosi Ikharo (Jade Media), social media strategist Carmen Vicente (Slate), and podcast host and comedian Akilah Hughes (How is This Better, Rebel Spirit) to dig into the real tension between algorithm and authenticity. From personal brand anxiety to social as career insurance, this is the conversation podcasters are having in private — now in public.

Elosi Ikharo makes the case that content always has to sit at the center — and that social media is less about becoming an influencer and more about beaconing the right audience toward what you actually have to say. She also delivers one of the episode’s most clarifying reframes: being seen is safety. Carmen Vicente, who thinks deeply about algorithmic systems and builds social strategy for brands, talks through the boundaries she’s set, the concessions she’s made, and why the best rubric for a piece of content might be as simple as: “would I DM this to a friend?” And Akilah Hughes, who has been making things on the internet since 2006 and now hosts two podcasts on two different networks, offers the lived practitioner’s perspective — including why both of her shows exist, in part, because she had a body of visible work online to point to.

The Signal Room is made in partnership with Wistia.